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KripnawtiQ Prime
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:35:00 -
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Galen Gaia wrote:I am using increasingly expensive gear, but the pay is not increasing proportionally. Ir is always about 200,000 ISK.
Do corp battles pay more?
You can't be serious?
Corp battles pay nothing. The payouts are more than generous atm. If you can't afford ur gear u are dying too much. Use cheaper fits if u are living beyond the means of ur skill lvl.
I'm not trolling u...this is seriously the truth. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:47:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Irish Syn wrote:People will say if you are using expensive gear that should you are running the risk of losing it in favor or doing better and getting paid more or something like that. Right now it's not true at all, if you do a public match from start to finish you will get somewhere in the ball park of 200,000 ISK regardless of how good you did. If you do really good you may get around 300,000 but if you die once or twice it doesn't matter. Not worth the risk at all.
And corporation matches are all a waste of ISK for bragging rights. I see people run protosuits fully geared up, costing at least 100,000 ISK a pop. The most pay out you get is 900,000 ISK, so collectively die 9 times and there is no profit to be gained, if the corp was in it for the ISK they'd just have their 8 guys go militia gear in public matches and get 8 x 200,000 ISK = 1,600,000 ISK in the same amount of time.
It is assumed CCP will have better ways to get ISK later on. Going into a pub match, and having everyone run gear that is above Militia/ standard gear will give a much higher pay out at the end of a match. The reason why payouts are staying in the bare minimum of 200k is because no one will run anything above militia gear, or standard gear. You're all screwing your selves over from gaining massive pay outs of 600k- 1 million + BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO SCARED TO LOSE THE MORE ADVANCED GEAR.
200k is more than enough to cover the cost of gear though. If a player is losing more than 200k worth of fittings, they are dying A LOT. Poor gameplay imo...regardless of the gear |
KripnawtiQ Prime
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:52:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Irish Syn wrote:People will say if you are using expensive gear that should you are running the risk of losing it in favor or doing better and getting paid more or something like that. Right now it's not true at all, if you do a public match from start to finish you will get somewhere in the ball park of 200,000 ISK regardless of how good you did. If you do really good you may get around 300,000 but if you die once or twice it doesn't matter. Not worth the risk at all.
And corporation matches are all a waste of ISK for bragging rights. I see people run protosuits fully geared up, costing at least 100,000 ISK a pop. The most pay out you get is 900,000 ISK, so collectively die 9 times and there is no profit to be gained, if the corp was in it for the ISK they'd just have their 8 guys go militia gear in public matches and get 8 x 200,000 ISK = 1,600,000 ISK in the same amount of time.
It is assumed CCP will have better ways to get ISK later on. Going into a pub match, and having everyone run gear that is above Militia/ standard gear will give a much higher pay out at the end of a match. The reason why payouts are staying in the bare minimum of 200k is because no one will run anything above militia gear, or standard gear. You're all screwing your selves over from gaining massive pay outs of 600k- 1 million + BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO SCARED TO LOSE THE MORE ADVANCED GEAR. 200k is more than enough to cover the cost of gear though. If a player is losing more than 200k worth of fittings, they are dying A LOT. Poor gameplay imo...regardless of the gear If everyone ran Porto gear, and only died a couple times each, the payout would probably hit 500k. remember the Asia Game Show matches!! |
KripnawtiQ Prime
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:01:00 -
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Irish Syn wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Irish Syn wrote:People will say if you are using expensive gear that should you are running the risk of losing it in favor or doing better and getting paid more or something like that. Right now it's not true at all, if you do a public match from start to finish you will get somewhere in the ball park of 200,000 ISK regardless of how good you did. If you do really good you may get around 300,000 but if you die once or twice it doesn't matter. Not worth the risk at all.
And corporation matches are all a waste of ISK for bragging rights. I see people run protosuits fully geared up, costing at least 100,000 ISK a pop. The most pay out you get is 900,000 ISK, so collectively die 9 times and there is no profit to be gained, if the corp was in it for the ISK they'd just have their 8 guys go militia gear in public matches and get 8 x 200,000 ISK = 1,600,000 ISK in the same amount of time.
It is assumed CCP will have better ways to get ISK later on. Going into a pub match, and having everyone run gear that is above Militia/ standard gear will give a much higher pay out at the end of a match. The reason why payouts are staying in the bare minimum of 200k is because no one will run anything above militia gear, or standard gear. You're all screwing your selves over from gaining massive pay outs of 600k- 1 million + BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO SCARED TO LOSE THE MORE ADVANCED GEAR. I'm not too scared to run expensive gear, but I know everyone else is running militia gear so why bother? I usually spawn in as my expensive suit to start things out, than notice on the kill log everyone is using militia in which case I find a supply depot and switch, I want gain extra cash if I'm the only one. KripnawtiQ Prime wrote: 200k is more than enough to cover the cost of gear though. If a player is losing more than 200k worth of fittings, they are dying A LOT. Poor gameplay imo...regardless of the gear
200K is more than enough to cover most fittings. But why when you'll get the same for running militia (assuming everyone else is as well, as mentioned above).
Why run militia gear with millions of isk saved up from the rediculously easy matches lately? |
KripnawtiQ Prime
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Posted - 2013.02.11 04:51:00 -
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usrevenge2 wrote:KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Galen Gaia wrote:I am using increasingly expensive gear, but the pay is not increasing proportionally. Ir is always about 200,000 ISK.
Do corp battles pay more? You can't be serious? Corp battles pay nothing. The payouts are more than generous atm. If you can't afford ur gear u are dying too much. Use cheaper fits if u are living beyond the means of ur skill lvl. I'm not trolling u...this is seriously the truth. this isn't true at all, the payouts seem pretty static no matter how good or bad you do, the average is between 200k and 300k you can easily die 5 times in a match if you are in the thick of it, so if your suit is like 40k isk you are lucky to make profit, let alone dieing more than that which can easily happy, or use a vehicle. I think it will be better in the future but as it stands using things like vehicles or expensive suits the big reason this is a problem is it creates a sense of " well we are screwed, might as well only use start fits" when you are in a losing battle. it also creates a divide between the has, and has not's and the group vs. solo's. I know eve players are against all 3 principles but in a shooter it doesn't work well, let alone a game like this. CCP needs to put the individual player's interest first in this case, or this game will end up being a few corps that always fight each other. First thing they need is playlist for solo players and groups, solo players can join the group games but groups can't join the solo variants. next they need to give more isk for how good you do, more should be given for certain actions, or it should be based on how much isk damage you dealt or repaired, healing someone in a heavy suit should give you a good amount of isk vs killing someone in milita gear. hacked points should deal damage and grant isk by a team, maybe even down to the squad level effort, (players in 1 man squads it diverts to team based). also, possibly a complete revamp of the salvage system, currently you are lucky to get 1 thing, most i've gotten was 3, when the market comes I suspect loot from battles will be a great money maker meaning more expensive stuff for all (and thus better loot maybe?) the more isk in damage done the better the loot should be, I think not only should the standard random loot from the master loot table be distributed but something like 30% of all stuff lost be given out 20% to the winners 10% to losers.
Last time I paid attention I had 17.8 million. This is a drop in the bucket compared to what some players have. I donate to my corp as well. We are playing the same game. How is what I said not true? |
KripnawtiQ Prime
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Posted - 2013.02.11 04:53:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Irish Syn wrote:People will say if you are using expensive gear that should you are running the risk of losing it in favor or doing better and getting paid more or something like that. Right now it's not true at all, if you do a public match from start to finish you will get somewhere in the ball park of 200,000 ISK regardless of how good you did. If you do really good you may get around 300,000 but if you die once or twice it doesn't matter. Not worth the risk at all.
And corporation matches are all a waste of ISK for bragging rights. I see people run protosuits fully geared up, costing at least 100,000 ISK a pop. The most pay out you get is 900,000 ISK, so collectively die 9 times and there is no profit to be gained, if the corp was in it for the ISK they'd just have their 8 guys go militia gear in public matches and get 8 x 200,000 ISK = 1,600,000 ISK in the same amount of time.
It is assumed CCP will have better ways to get ISK later on. So explain to me days before the reset why guys were getting over 1M isk for a match... maybe it had to do with the giant amount of expensive loss.
Yes. Players were burning up their isk and officer gear. Big payouts from killing guys in great gear. |
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